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4.15 - Affairs of State

4.15 - Affairs of State

Year(s) Discussed: 1810-1811

As President Madison struggled to fill various vacant positions in both the executive and judicial branches, the administration's enemies in Congress gathered their forces to take on an institution that had been in the cross hairs of some Democratic-Republican leaders for the twenty years since its original inception - the Bank of the United States. Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Albert Gallatin forced Madison's hands to make a significant change in his administration, a change that the President could also use to fully mend fences with his longtime friend and occasional rival, James Monroe. Sources used for this episode can be found at https://www.presidenciespodcast.com.

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Season 4 04 - James Madison

Special thanks to Alex for providing the intro quote for this episode and to Christian of Your Podcast Pal for his audio editing work on this episode!

The transcript for this episode can be found here.

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Featured Images:

  • "Albert Gallatin" by Gilbert Stuart [c. 1803], courtesy of Wikipedia
  • "George Clinton" by Ezra Ames [c. 1814], courtesy of Wikipedia
  • "Frederick Bates" [c. early 19th century], courtesy of Wikipedia
  • "James Monroe" by Robert Vanderlyn [c. 1816], courtesy of Wikipedia

Intro and Outro Music: Selections from “Jefferson and Liberty” as performed by The Itinerant Band